Van Ness broke down in tears discussing anti-transgender rhetoric on Shepard's podcast.
Van Ness, who is non-binary and uses any pronouns, teared up and declared they were"emotionally exhausted" from the anti-transgender rhetoric happening across the country.The New York Times
"Some people are very uncomfortable about teenagers transitioning. They're challenging that. How do we know that the person's not gonna change their mind?" Shepard began, as Van Ness tried to explain gender-affirming healthcare. "They are conservative. They don't like how quickly the country's changing. I understand that, I can sympathize with that," Shepard said."They have different fears than we do—it's not because they're dumb or uneducated. They have a difference of opinion."Van Ness continued to explain their point of view, insisting they were not labelling Shepard a bigot.
"I wish that people were as passionate about little kids being able to be included or grow up as they were about fictitious women's fairness in sports. I have to tell you I am very tired," Van Ness said.
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